According to the international agreement, military vessels are not allowed in Antarctica without scientific purposes. This is what HMCS Margaret Brau is now doing in the South Polar region, in their study, supports 15 Canadian climate scientists.

Margaret Brook joined Margaret Brochk, Vice President Angus Top. In an exclusive interview of the ship, Topshee spoke about the Central Bank's Susan Orbiston, why the introduction of the Royal Canadian Navy in this type of mission, and why the scientific research expedition can strengthen the polar security of Canada.

H. What has initiated this mission in Antarctica?

A. When I looked at what we were doing in the north and, in particular, what we saw our opponents who did in the north, we can see what is happening in the South American navy. And so, the genesis of this, let's go get acquired experience. Let's serve this deployment as a compulsory function to approach the South American Navy who work in this polar region. Let's take a little bit of science and see if we can find out what we can help us to better protect and protect our north.

H. Do you think there is a security problem in Antarctica here because there is in the Arctic?

A. I'm definitely doing. I am worried that the whole contract we could not (militarize and deminiate Antarctica … could change. And I don't think it's in our interests to allow you to change easily.

H. You said that your goal is to find out what China does. So what did you know?

A. So I did not realize that the Russians had the basis here that was right next to Chile, and where it was. And so, just go down here and appreciate how close all these different actions are. And in advance in advance, we realized that China increases their antabilous footprints, and for us what we really want to do, they understand. Most of their research is a double goal, it clearly serves the military goal, as well as the economic and possible diplomatic goal. So it's interesting to have a better meaning than that.

H. How does it know what China or Russia does in Antarctica affect Canadians?

A. It is always easy, from a military point of view, to understand the opportunities of another nation in terms of the armed forces. We can look at how many tanks they are, how many ships have as many plane. What is always harder to understand is the intention. Countries will always say positive things … In fact, I did not see the speeches of the Chinese Defense Minister, which could be given by our minister because the language is the same. But the interpretation and meaning of words can often vary. And so faring here, seeing what they are doing, we have a better idea of ​​their intention.

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H. What do you think is their intention?

A. I don't know I think Russia has made their intention to make it quite clear. Thus, we saw Russia's chance to increase in the Arctica. We have seen their illegal and unpublished invasion in Ukraine. There is no doubt about Russia's intention in my mind. But I think China is one thing where there are some indicators of how they treated some planes in some of our planes when we underwent surgery on our actions in the South China. But about another level, I don't know that they are doing otherwise how we will act if the Chinese working group entered the waters of Canada. We will still leave our ships and our planes to control what they did, just as they control what we do in their waters.

H. How will you achieve security and sovereign concerns in the Arctic and Antarctica?

A. The biggest difference is an antabtical agreement. Thus, there is a whole idea that the countries of the world can cooperate, and that there is no advantage of anyone. Meanwhile, the Arctic really outlines all the spheres, (although) there are still some work that should be done with some special requirements … But there is already a competition in the Arctic. And so what we have to do is, because Canada continues to do what we have done, which can build the ability to be able to understand our Arctic and answer that our interests are protected.

H. You talked about an unknown fleet. You talked about the old ships with a long life and the lack of modern ships. How do you protect such expenses, you can go down thousands of miles from the south of Canada and study this part of the world.

A. Yes, it is quite simple … We have seen the greatest growth of human prosperity since World War II due to peace, which has been preserved in the sea. The desire to not have the freedom of shipment of the world and the desire to drown a point should be stopped in different things. Whether it is a pirate from the coast of Somali, the actions of Hutis in the Red Sea and the things like that. South American Navy is also part of that solution. Thus, this ship, Margaret Brook, visits almost every South American country, working with all the main fleet of the region, to establish partnerships and relations. : We are interested in this region, because if everything here is safe and secure for everyone. And so I think this is a relatively small investment in a general burden to continue to make sure the seas are free and open to everyone.

H. What about this cooperation with scientists? They are all there on a quarter, working far, hoping that they will have another opportunity to do such a vessel and support. Will such co-author continue?

A. I think this is the type of thing that is worth doing every three to five years or go down. You know, visit South America, visit Antarctica to continue research. Frankly, we need to make sure that … governments and organizations that these scientists come … have found that value. And if Canada continues to think that this is something unworthy, then yes, we must do so. … My feeling is currently talking to scientists and seeing the staff on the ship and gaining knowledge, I think it deserves.

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H. I heard that you are talking about “This is a global sea.” Some people think, how can we be a global fleet? We are very small. China ships, they are now the wise ship in the world.

A. Well, I would like to have ports like China. Actually … (southern) Korean yards will be fantastic. Thus, we are building the fleet that needs us now the government's commitment to 15 river fighters, a possible achievement of 12 … submarines. We have received six ships in this class, we also have two tankers. So we build the fleet we require. … So yes, we can be a small fleet, but we really have global access. In fact, last year HMCS MONTRAH gave a round-the-clock around the clock tour as part of its Indian deployment.

H. We go to another Canadian choices. What are you going to ask the new government?

A. My preference is that we avoid promises of protection from the elections, as they tend to make negative promises. But I think no matter what the government is elected, there is a clear commitment to Canada that we need to spend more on defense and security, and the oceans around Canada are only a strong fleet.